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he settles and colonizes what is today utah and actually a larger portion of the american west. and he becomes a major long-term opponent to the u.s. government. and that gets him a lot of notoriety in the 19th century as well. >> so, where did brigham young come from and began his life? >> he grew up in basically a state western new york. he came from a very poor family. he didn't have any formal education. and was impoverished, really hard childhood. his family moved around a lot. once he was out on his own he moved around a lot. he was a craftsman, kind of a furniture paynter and never really got ahead. in his life entirely changed once he converted to mormonism when he was a little bit more than 30-years-old. >> so how did he need joseph smith etc? >> the book of mormon, shortly after it was published in 1830 some of his family members read it. he later said that he read it and he spent a lot of time thinking and out. he didn't jump on board right away, she was a little bit skeptical and a little uncertain and spend a couple of years considering the claim of this new work of
he settles and colonizes what is today utah and actually a larger portion of the american west. and he becomes a major long-term opponent to the u.s. government. and that gets him a lot of notoriety in the 19th century as well. >> so, where did brigham young come from and began his life? >> he grew up in basically a state western new york. he came from a very poor family. he didn't have any formal education. and was impoverished, really hard childhood. his family moved around a lot....
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i spent a lot of time in utah. i happened to me some of his descendants. >> to the church cooperate in opening up their archives to you? >> cooperated a great deal. i came along at a good time. perhaps the church gave me access to the entirety of the teefor papers which really would fill up a pretty good chunk of our library. the massive amount of papers. the marriages, his conflicts with other figures in a church. i got to see overall 90 percent of what one to see. >> why you? why did you get an access? why are you writing this book? why did you write this book? >> i wrote it in part because i wanted to learn more about mormon is an. basically i am a student of the history of religion in the united states. if that is what you're interested in, it is hard not to get someone interested in the latter day saints. such a colorful and dramatic story. profits, persecution, polygamy. i got into the project as a way of learning more about mormon is and as a church and as a religion and also because brigham young is such a
i spent a lot of time in utah. i happened to me some of his descendants. >> to the church cooperate in opening up their archives to you? >> cooperated a great deal. i came along at a good time. perhaps the church gave me access to the entirety of the teefor papers which really would fill up a pretty good chunk of our library. the massive amount of papers. the marriages, his conflicts with other figures in a church. i got to see overall 90 percent of what one to see. >> why...
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utah today is making the beehive state. and i think brigham young hoped that their expense could be like that of california. form a state government and then be led into the union as an equal sovereign state. u.s. government -- the mormons ask for a huge swath of territory. u.s. government doesn't want to give them that much land, doesn't like their work. doesn't want to let a mormon controlled state into the union and so it said the territory of utah is created. the u.s. government, president gore doesn't like brigham young. >> how long did brigham young serve as governor? >> he served six years as governor spent was the head of the church of the same time? >> absolutely. >> was there political infighting within the mormon church, brigham young, did he have rival? >> not really. he saw to it that he did not have any significant rivals within the church, especially after they get to utah. there are other people who put themselves forward as possible leaders after joseph smith's death, but by the time to brigham young's fact
utah today is making the beehive state. and i think brigham young hoped that their expense could be like that of california. form a state government and then be led into the union as an equal sovereign state. u.s. government -- the mormons ask for a huge swath of territory. u.s. government doesn't want to give them that much land, doesn't like their work. doesn't want to let a mormon controlled state into the union and so it said the territory of utah is created. the u.s. government, president...
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it was about keeping utah out of statehood, and unless there's a transformative supreme court opinion, which may happen, coming especially from the california cases, it is still within state control. >> host: sarah gordon, you have a forthcoming book called "the place of faith," and where did you get interested in the subject of law and religion? >> guest: well, i became deeply interested when i was thinking about applying to graduate school, and i was torn. did i want to go to seminary or to law school? for family reasons, my husband wanted to relocate to connecticut. i wound up in law school rather than in seminary and was delighted when i discovered i could do a joint degree with the divinity school at yale, and thought i had been trading off one interest against the other and discovered, thanks to the availability of interdisciplinary training, that i could actually combine my interests so i started in around 1982. i'm in my 30th year of working in this field and i find myself still fascinated, still intrigued, and dedicated to thinking deeply about the relationship between law an
it was about keeping utah out of statehood, and unless there's a transformative supreme court opinion, which may happen, coming especially from the california cases, it is still within state control. >> host: sarah gordon, you have a forthcoming book called "the place of faith," and where did you get interested in the subject of law and religion? >> guest: well, i became deeply interested when i was thinking about applying to graduate school, and i was torn. did i want to...
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in utah pushed again and again for statehood and was delayed again and again in large part because of this question of polygamy. the federal government have much more control over the territorial governments than it did or does over the state government. so, yes, there is a big issue about how much control the state has over marriage. was public any foundational in lessening that control at the time and that the date was no it wasn't, it was about keeping utah out of the state would come in and unless we see the transfer of the supreme court opinion which may happen coming especially from the california cases, it is still within the state control. >> sarah gordon you have an upcoming book called the place of faith. where did you get interested in the subject of law and religion? >> redican deeply interested when i was thinking about applying to graduate school, but i was torn. it i want to go to the seminary or law school? and for reasons my family wanted to relocate to connecticut i went up in law school rather than in a seminary and i was delighted when i discovered it like to do jo
in utah pushed again and again for statehood and was delayed again and again in large part because of this question of polygamy. the federal government have much more control over the territorial governments than it did or does over the state government. so, yes, there is a big issue about how much control the state has over marriage. was public any foundational in lessening that control at the time and that the date was no it wasn't, it was about keeping utah out of the state would come in and...
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they were positioned to fire upon utah beach. most of the rangers were equipped with there might grenades, burned and a highly high temperature over 1,000 degrees. they pulled out the grenades and welded each of the gun parts and moving parts in the guns, he took his thompson submachine gun and smashed the sites of the guns, and meanwhile what is most amazing is literally no more than 100 yards from here, 120 germans were assembling, ready to go on the guns, these other crews, ready to fire upon the beach, somehow miraculously they were able to destroy the guns before the men where there. this is a story just told to me, it is documented extensively at the national archives. a lot of oral histories that i found, a number of oral histories are in the wrong box that were taken two months after the event by a legendary historian who interviewed these men. that is not the end of the story, hardly. "dog company" about their whole war from pointe du hoc to germany where they lead patton's army. we go from there, what is next is part of
they were positioned to fire upon utah beach. most of the rangers were equipped with there might grenades, burned and a highly high temperature over 1,000 degrees. they pulled out the grenades and welded each of the gun parts and moving parts in the guns, he took his thompson submachine gun and smashed the sites of the guns, and meanwhile what is most amazing is literally no more than 100 yards from here, 120 germans were assembling, ready to go on the guns, these other crews, ready to fire...
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they were positioned to fire up on utah beach. most of the rangers were equipped with something called thermite grenade which burns at a very high temperature, over 1000 degrees. it melts the metal parts. they pulled out the grenades and they welded each one of the gun parts, the moving parts of the gun solid so they couldn't be used. so he then took his thompson submachine gun and smashed the sites of all the guns so they couldn't be used. meanwhile, what's most amazing is literally no more than 100 yards from there, about 120 germans were assembling, ready to go on the guns. they were ready to fire up on omaha beach. somehow miraculously they were able to destroy these guns. before those men were there. this isn't a story that was just told to me by him, document extensively in national archives, a lot of the oral history, i found a number of these oral histories in the wrong box that were taking too much -- two months after the events i a legendary historian when he interviewed these men. but that's not the end of the story. ha
they were positioned to fire up on utah beach. most of the rangers were equipped with something called thermite grenade which burns at a very high temperature, over 1000 degrees. it melts the metal parts. they pulled out the grenades and they welded each one of the gun parts, the moving parts of the gun solid so they couldn't be used. so he then took his thompson submachine gun and smashed the sites of all the guns so they couldn't be used. meanwhile, what's most amazing is literally no more...
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i did some studying, my uncle had been in the 90s infantry in utah beach, and i was very impressed to read about the history of the division. to my surprise, general jay mcill i have who was the commander was e are leafed in about a week -- can was relieved in about a week, let alone 90 days. and i never found out why. obviously, he budget cutting it. but i guess the question i had, with these fellas, what was their downside? you said about 10% of them were division commanders who were relieved. now, what happened? i mean, were they kicked down to colonel, sent bang to the united states d sent back to the united states? were they sort of sent to the effect of a teachers' rubber room, or was in a couple cases that they actually were reassigned to another division? i was wondering if you can give a sense what these men were up against so that that kind of culture, the, you know, the downside permeated to the future generations such that they were more concerned about avoiding failure rather than, you know, promoting, achieving success. >> sure. this actually leads to one of my -- a grea
i did some studying, my uncle had been in the 90s infantry in utah beach, and i was very impressed to read about the history of the division. to my surprise, general jay mcill i have who was the commander was e are leafed in about a week -- can was relieved in about a week, let alone 90 days. and i never found out why. obviously, he budget cutting it. but i guess the question i had, with these fellas, what was their downside? you said about 10% of them were division commanders who were...
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u my case in point is jason, poin police trying to serve a warrant on him in utah so tee hook aon hostage and posted on facebooke, "cute hostage" and posted that on facebook.tartingto thev swat team came, and whenmot there was hea shootout, he a friended 15 people on his facebook page, posted six status ad updates, and he also had friends post things like on the wall,us like, got her in the bushes,frst telling where the guys were, and just like a big budget movie,teh theer cops break in, shootout, a goes to the hospital, the hostage is fine, but now theyakc are tryinomg to figure out whetr they can prosecute people fromes telling -- who told him wherebua the reswat team members were. you know, facebook is addictiveo a billion people on facebookw, making it the third largest nation in the world after india bo and okchina. th has cease and desist citizens, -- it has citizens, its ownits ow approaches, a and people are drawn to it like any new nation because of the sense of freedom. you could be an ordinary person, a scientist in a crowd sources project or could be a journalis reporting on w
u my case in point is jason, poin police trying to serve a warrant on him in utah so tee hook aon hostage and posted on facebooke, "cute hostage" and posted that on facebook.tartingto thev swat team came, and whenmot there was hea shootout, he a friended 15 people on his facebook page, posted six status ad updates, and he also had friends post things like on the wall,us like, got her in the bushes,frst telling where the guys were, and just like a big budget movie,teh theer cops break...
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professor teaching the american revolution and here you have probably the best account of the battle of utah's spring superfine or any other event in the revolution. so this is the resource for teaching the american revolution. i congratulate todd for putting it together. >> i'm not a degreed historian. i play one on tv, but it was important to me that the newspaper is historically supported by the experts, the authorities on the subject manner. so i drafted 37 copies orients to bridge the centuries and kind of hold the hands of the general reader so when they are trying to consume 18th century media, which isn't always the easiest thing for us today, they have the experts who can kind of going to the games they should be never seen and keep in mind these are also the number one propaganda tools of the area. so they do come with occasional areas and inaccuracies that contributors to the book, what they did is surface referees. so they were calling fouls and pointing that out for the modern reader. so these documents alone can be dangerous. but when they are contextualized by experts, very beau
professor teaching the american revolution and here you have probably the best account of the battle of utah's spring superfine or any other event in the revolution. so this is the resource for teaching the american revolution. i congratulate todd for putting it together. >> i'm not a degreed historian. i play one on tv, but it was important to me that the newspaper is historically supported by the experts, the authorities on the subject manner. so i drafted 37 copies orients to bridge...
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[laughter] utah to the jefferson's fox and his role in perpetuating slavery and i wonder how he would evaluate his thinking and his action regarding american indians. >> he was complicity in the tragedies of american life. the removal of native americans. andrew jackson gets the lion's share of the blame but one of my arguments about jackson was and is jackson may have been on the extreme edge of the mainstream but he was in the mainstream on this issue. congress had a great battle over the indian removal in 18:30 a.m. he was one of the most ferocious legislative battles of the first 60 years of the republic but then they never revisited. they fought it out, the jackson administration won and that was that so jefferson set up a predicate and was a president for what ultimately happened. you know the only person who comes out well enough story is someone who is very little known, the first secretary of the war that created a very good humane plan. president washington went to the senate and it didn't go well. as washington left the kind of committee meeting, he said i will be damned if
[laughter] utah to the jefferson's fox and his role in perpetuating slavery and i wonder how he would evaluate his thinking and his action regarding american indians. >> he was complicity in the tragedies of american life. the removal of native americans. andrew jackson gets the lion's share of the blame but one of my arguments about jackson was and is jackson may have been on the extreme edge of the mainstream but he was in the mainstream on this issue. congress had a great battle over...
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ranched, and in the last few years, it's been acquired by apparently a very fine couple from the state of utah. and they don't live there full-time, but they have full-time management, and they're doing a good job of preserving the structures there, i'm told. c-span: now this is co-authored by your brother, h. alan day. >> guest: yes. yes. c-span: where is he today? >> guest: he lives in tucson now. c-span: how long did he live on the ranch? >> guest: until the ke--keys were turned over on the last day when it was sold. and i can't even imagine how hard it must have been for alan to get in his car and to drive out all those miles on that dirt road and know that that was his last journey out... c-span: wh... >> guest: ... as a part owner and as manager. c-span: when you were living there, how many cattle on the--did--did your father own? >> guest: well, you know, brian, that's a little like asking how much money did he have in the bank. you don't ask that of a rancher c-span: you say that in the book. >> guest: and ranchers don't answer that question. there were a lot of cattle, and the numbers
ranched, and in the last few years, it's been acquired by apparently a very fine couple from the state of utah. and they don't live there full-time, but they have full-time management, and they're doing a good job of preserving the structures there, i'm told. c-span: now this is co-authored by your brother, h. alan day. >> guest: yes. yes. c-span: where is he today? >> guest: he lives in tucson now. c-span: how long did he live on the ranch? >> guest: until the ke--keys were...
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you allude to the arc of the universe is long, and utah for inclusion. dr. king was talk about jessica i think that's right. and i think the arc of the universe is long and heads towards democracy and its people like you and me and all of you working to benefit, and the biggest obstruction have is this a deep fear of the democracy of souls. because people don't understand, i think, that when you hear power, you actually increase your power. it's like giving your life to another candle. you don't lose your light. you keep it. that's been my experience so far. you've had enough time to shape -- >> i think so. it's a little more earth level than yours. i think we're at the beginning of a new. the multicultmulticult uralism movement has been built over the past 50 or 60. you can trace it back to multiple points. you can trace back to jackie robinson it to 40. you can trace it back to team and montgomery back in 9055. you can trace back to board in 1955. we are at this movement. the single most important thing we need right now is people to see themselves not as
you allude to the arc of the universe is long, and utah for inclusion. dr. king was talk about jessica i think that's right. and i think the arc of the universe is long and heads towards democracy and its people like you and me and all of you working to benefit, and the biggest obstruction have is this a deep fear of the democracy of souls. because people don't understand, i think, that when you hear power, you actually increase your power. it's like giving your life to another candle. you...
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reading of him, that he is, and those manuscript notes are in the lily library of the university of utah. c-span: now go back to your own situation. you said that you started to get interested back in 1990 when you went to montana and saw the little bighorn monument, battlefield. but what got you there in the first place? >> guest: well, i was like any other tourist, just taking a kind of vacation trip. and as i say, over a quarter of a million people visit that battlefield, even though it's in the middle of nowhere in terms of accessibility. it's not near any big city. you have to make an effort to go there. but... c-span: how far is it from the biggest what's the biggest city it's located near? >> guest: billings. it's about, i would say, a half hour, maybe a little longer, from billings. but billings is not a huge metropolis. it's the unspoiled character of the battlefield that i think is extremely attractive. c-span: what do you normally teach? >> guest: i teach american literature and american studies. c-span: and was this just a vacation that got you to this monument? >> guest: it
reading of him, that he is, and those manuscript notes are in the lily library of the university of utah. c-span: now go back to your own situation. you said that you started to get interested back in 1990 when you went to montana and saw the little bighorn monument, battlefield. but what got you there in the first place? >> guest: well, i was like any other tourist, just taking a kind of vacation trip. and as i say, over a quarter of a million people visit that battlefield, even though...